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Doctor Who, S4E10 - Midnight
As usual, I'm late to the "here are my thoughts" game. Mostly, this is because I tend to collect my thoughts over a couple of days, write a few thoughts here and there on the 'Net about it, and by that time I think that I might have said everything that I wanted to say about an episode.

Still, I think it could be good to collect my thoughts in one place, so here goes. Folks that know me from here and there would recognize these thoughts already.



For who_daily: <lj user="iko"> <a href="http://iko.livejournal.com/43358.html"> has highly contradictory feelings and poetry</a>

I have mixed feelings about this episode. Not exactly negative feelings, mind you, but highly contradictory feelings.

On one hand, I thought that the episode felt less like a Doctor Who episode and more like a Twilight Zone episode. It's got a similar pacing to typical Twilight Zone episodes, specifically "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street". I'm not sure how familiar folks are with that story. It's about a lazy afternoon on a typical block when the lights and power go out. The people gather to discuss the blackout when the power goes off and on without reason in different houses and people start blaming each other until they start fighting. At the very end, the camera pulls back to reveal two aliens who were responsible for the power outages and they discuss how it is human nature to blame each other and destroy ourselves. It's very powerful social commentary about prejudice and hysteria... which is exactly what "Midnight" was about too. So, that sort of threw me emotionally because it wasn't what I expected from a Who episode. I loved it very much because of it. I think that it's the sort of episode that make people of all ages think. "Midnight" is social commentary, not uncommon in Who, but the delivery of this kind of social commentary is not typical of the series.

On the other hand, I thought the episode was a brilliant character exploration of the Doctor. It solidifies the need for the Doctor for a companion, someone to be his backup, when dealing with other people (goodness gracious, can you imagine the trip to the Library without Donna and River who both know him?). When he's by himself, he comes off to others as arrogant and his "I'm clever!" line totally fell flat. He can't help himself, since this regeneration is a bit rude - he can't help but correct other people and he has a difficult time empathizing with others or communicating effectively with those that do not empathize with him. (Gosh, in this respect, this is very much like Mike and me. We're both not particularly empathetic and we're both rather clever and I know that we tend to come off like this. So this episode really hit me hard.) Also, he is really private about himself. He doesn't give any indication of what makes him different: he's NOT human, he travels in a TARDIS, he's seen all these brilliant places and the wonders of the universe and in this episode, he is made completely impotent. There is no fancy box that's bigger on the inside. Just him, the stuff in his pockets, and a love to see the universe. The fascination of new life and the willingness to understand and to help everything really comes through. In other words, there's a part of me that thinks the episode is very much a Doctor Who episode!

How much love could I have for Lesley Sharp? NOT ENOUGH. Seriously, I saw her in Bob & Rose (which is a must-see) and Second Coming (another must-see) and she's just brilliant. I still need to get my hands on Clocking Off. I think that her performance was amazing and so difficult. I wouldn't be surprised if this role was written for her or that Team Cardiff would work hard to get her in this role (Russell has worked with enough people to have his favorites and it's interesting to see when he brings out "the big guns" in his arsenal to bring to Who when great, high impact performances are required).

It's great to see Lesley and David working off each other. They are both really amazing and there's this great energy between them that was awesome to see. And David's performance at the end was just so awesome and intense and just... it makes me shudder.

You could tell that this was to be the "low budget" episode, to help save up the finances for the big finale. It's an intimate piece and I thought it was good. I didn't love it, though. It doesn't inspire me to write tons of fanfic about it and I'm largely uninterested in the other characters, excepting perhaps Dee Dee and Jethro. I don't have the awe that I think I should about the planet of "Midnight" (although it does amuse me that Donna and the Doctor are at a self-described "pleasure planet"). I'm most tired of the old "mothers are bad" trope that Russell demonstrates. I know that it's understandable to have a primary instigator, a bad guy, but I really wish it wasn't always a mother character. I find it interesting that the two smartest passengers other than the Doctor were also the two youngest and both were repressed by older, authority figures (who were less competent).

Two big things that I saw were definitely interesting and two minor things that amused me:
1. The very quick Rose flash. I think that it clarifies that Rose was not saying "Donna" in "The Sontaran Stratagem" and was, in fact, saying "Doctor". The time setting of "Midnight" is not clear (in other words, I'm not sure if the people on board the shuttle were humans-in-the-future, like the same time setting as the Library or if the time setting is present time, like the not-humans-but-look-like-humans people from "Voyage of the Damned"). My *guess* is that the story is taking place in present time and Rose is trying to contact him on their "shared present timeline" (notice that when the Doctor travels to a different time period, like in the Library, Rose doesn't reach him).
2. The Christina Georgina Rossetti poem "Goblin Market". I think that the story of the "Goblin Market" (of a bad choice that leads to another making a huge sacrifice for the one that made a bad choice) highly reinforces my thoughts about how the ending of the series is going to play out. See below for more thoughts on this...
3. ROMANA REFERENCE! He's so talking about Romana, not Rose, with Sky.
4. David Troughton! I love it when Who becomes a family affair. I mean, he has appeared in Who in the past, but it is still wonderful to see it in New Who. So awesome to see two offspring from former Doctors in this season.

Going back to "Goblin Market":

The quote from the show is this:

We must not look at goblin men,
We must not buy their fruits:
Who knows upon what soil they fed
Their hungry thirsty roots?


The lines are spoken by Laura in the poem as a warning to her sister, and yet she is the one that ends up giving into temptation and eating the goblin fruit. Laura is sort of “doomed to die” but then her sister Lizzie ends up making a choice where she’s beaten by the goblins, but is coated with the pulp. She tells Laura to eat the pulp off her (woah sexual imagery) and thus saves her sister.

After an in-length discussion with Mike, specifically about the lines and the plot of the episode, I came to the realization that the lines quoted in the episode make *really* good sense in context.

Essentially, the lines are a warning in the poem. It is saying that goblin fruit need to be feared and be treated as dangerous because it is the unknown. There's an emphasis because it is foreign and strange that it should be feared, avoided, be treated as dangerous, and eventually be destroyed. It fits perfectly in the situation in "Midnight". That's exactly how the other passengers begin to treat Sky and this new presence. It doesn't matter what the Doctor said (that we should be cautious but at the same time, have a degree of excitement because this was something new - a new lifeform, a new conciousness) because it is ALIEN and DANGEROUS.

This ultimately leads to them deciding that it should be destroyed.

And what's really interesting is that this is exactly what the alien learns from humanity. First it was echoing our voices and thoughts. Then it was able to state our thoughts while we were having them. It was learning from us... and what did it learn from us? To fear. To create dissent. To destroy. And it took the one person that could possibly stand in its way, the one that was most clever and most sophisticated and most understanding and convinced the others to throw it that out, that positive force. Very strong social commentary.

I do think the poem fits with my thoughts of the theme of the season as a whole. Ever since April, I've thought that this season will have an overall theme about "choices" and as the season has gone on, it has just confirmed my thoughts more and more that someone will have to make the hardest choice. Now, the poem is about sacrifice. I think this points to the Doctor and Donna, about making hard choices and making sacrifices to do what is right (my brain always inserts "and not what is easy" afterwards; thanks Harry Potter).

As a summary:
I liked the episode as a whole. There is quite a bit to love in it. Will it be on my favorites list of New Who episodes? Probably not. Will I watch in the future? Probably not. Is it the type of episode that, upon watching, would increase my squee? Probably not. It doesn't inspire me, I'm not convinced it will give me more with multiple viewings (if you think otherwise, let me know what I bits you think deserve a rewatch). It scares me in a really negative way that makes me uncomfortable and I don't like it because of that. I respect it for being able to feel but I don't like it. I've read criticisms of the episode and while I understand what folks didn't like about it (the pacing seems to be the Big One, although close behind it is the strange set-up and the Donne-liteness), I still look at the positive bits I do like and think that the negative bits are worth the positive ones.

Three more to go. Aa! It kills me.



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[info]sam42
2008-06-16 05:17 am UTC (link)
This is almost quite what I feel, except for the fact that I say I love the episode. It makes me highly uncomfortable because of the echolalia, which freaks me out, but I still love it.

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[info]iko
2008-06-16 05:51 am UTC (link)
For me, the little details are what make me not completely love the episode. The echolalia was, for me, more of a freak-out thing rather than an annoying thing, but mostly it fills me more with awe about Lesley Sharp. Hee!

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[info]entelein
2008-06-16 05:26 am UTC (link)
I mentioned this in another friend's LJ, and I've had a little more thinking on it, but I was a bit dismayed to see that it was the heartbroken lesbian character who gets possessed and killed by the end of the episode.

However, it was also really clear that she was the most down-to-earth and 'real' of the all the passengers, so in a way she was the strongest person there, perhaps stronger than the Doctor.

So, I have mixed feelings.

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[info]iko
2008-06-16 05:58 am UTC (link)
Yes, I thought that was really unfair for the other person without a plus one to be the one who ends up dying (and to make her a heartbroken lesbian, too). Like the Doctor, she wasn't supported and had no one to back her up. Everyone else did: the Professor and his assistant, the family, the hostess and the crew. But Sky and the Doctor stick out and that makes it more believable that they would be seen as problems by the rest of the people on board.

Also, I think the audience knows more about Sky than the other people because the Doctor connected with her the most as another loner. He talks to her about something more intimate and private over the discussions he had with the other groups. (Like, one doesn't really know the other people's sexuality and her going on this trip ties more to her own personal life than the others.) I think it's deliberate, for us to care about her more than the rest and to side with the Doctor's desire to help her (and Sky) as much as possible.

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[info]chelseagirl47
2008-06-16 10:47 am UTC (link)
Nice explication of the Rossetti!

Troughton seems to have colonized the business with his family. I know that Sam Troughton from Robin Hood and Hex is his grandson, and I'm wondering about the Alice Troughton who directed the ep (and also a bunch of SJA eps)-- do you know? M. and I knew David Troughton as the first Wellington in the first couple of Sharpe movies, but we didn't realize he was actually Patrick's son. Very cool.

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[info]iko
2008-06-16 03:11 pm UTC (link)
From what I understand, Alice Troughton is no relation to Patrick and David.

I thought that he looked really familiar and it took me a moment to make the connection that it was David Troughton, aka King Peladon. *facepalms* It's just been so long!

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[info]radiantbaby
2008-06-17 08:29 am UTC (link)
I was rather surprised to just learn that Harry Melling (from Harry Potter) is also Patrick Troughton's grandson. That's quite an acting family.

Oh, and Alice is definitely no relation, though she has been teased about it by RTD and David Tennant (I believe it was in one of the commentaries for this year -- "The Poison Sky" perhaps?).

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[info]chelseagirl47
2008-06-17 12:51 pm UTC (link)
Must be in the genes.

And she *should* be related. ;-)

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[info]lilas
2008-06-16 12:23 pm UTC (link)
Heh, about Rose saying "Doctor"... she was so very clearly saying it this time, that I entertain a fantasy that Rusty heard about people thinking it was "Donna" before, and he told Billie to exaggerate it a little to make it so there was no doubt. ;)

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[info]iko
2008-06-16 03:13 pm UTC (link)
Hee hee! I always thought it was "Doctor", because she seems to be making a "c" sound. I think the first clip was deliberately short to make it ambiguous.

I'm shallow and mostly what I think about when I see the unexpected!Rose-on-screen is "I don't really like what she's doing with her hair."

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[info]jigglykat
2008-06-16 01:58 pm UTC (link)
That's interesting insight into the poem! I hadn't thought about it that way.

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[info]iko
2008-06-16 03:15 pm UTC (link)
Thanks! I actually didn't think much of it at the time, but then someone asked about the significance of it, which made me really read the poem, analyze it, and think about it in deeper context of the episode. I just first it was just some creepy bit of atmospheric dialogue. Reading it and thinking about it makes it so much more.

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[info]f13tch3r
2008-06-19 03:49 am UTC (link)
Love your commentary. I did like this episode for the most part and Donna-lite is never a problem. I agree that being without her shows us, probably what the Doctor already knows, that he really needs a companion. I LOVED the pacing. It needed to be drawn out. In fact, I hated how quickly things progressed. I'd rather it had been a two-parter (but only if we delved a little deeper into the creature that took over Skye).

Yes, "The Monsters Are Due On Maple Street," was very much on my mind, particularly since hubby and I recently saw it on SciFi. But how bad could it be to reshow that every-present tendency of ours? I think, as an American, we need to be reminded of that (Read: Barak HUSSEIN Obama fear mongering). Sadly, most Americans won't see this kind of social commentary.

I think I will watch this again. Just to see what I can see.
Hubby and I wondered if the events that happened in this episode will affect the Doctor's actions in the finale. I think his faith in humanity has been shaken and it may have dire consequences soon.

Oh yeah, I forgot to say thanks for the info on the poem. I was not familar with it so I could not glean any greater insight from it.

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[info]iko
2008-06-19 04:57 am UTC (link)
I think, on the whole, I'd like more two-parters in New Who. I felt that "The Doctor's Daughter" would've worked better if the relationship between Jenny and the Doctor was more drawn out and the alternative Martha-plotline was explored and didn't feel so tacked on to give her something to do.

I don't really have a good finger on the pulse of American television audiences. Despite watching a lot of American television. I'm not really aware of what's really popular because I don't socialize with a lot of people. I know that American Idol is wildly popular, but I have never watched it. I have also never watched Lost, Desperate Housewives, Dancing With the Stars, and the very little I've seen of CSI pales in comparison to Dexter (which I do watch with much zeal). I stopped watching House sometime during the second season and just barely made it to the finale of Grey's Anatomy's first season. The only show on the 2007-2008 season's top 20 that I watch regularly is Criminal Minds. So I'm not exactly sure how much social commentary is delivered to the typical American audience member.

I think his faith in humanity has been shaken and it may have dire consequences soon.

This I didn't think about! That's a really interesting idea! That makes me curious to see, too, if that theme comes out in the finale. I'd like to think that although his faith in humanity is shaken, someone (re: Donna) will restore it.

I wasn't familiar with the poem, either, until someone asked about it and I decided to look it up and read up on it. I just thought it was just creepy dialogue that didn't mean anything, just meant to be atmospheric, and now that I've done a bit more looking at it, it's possible meanings really intrigue me.

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[info]f13tch3r
2008-06-19 09:15 am UTC (link)
I watch CSI but mostly as background while I'm cleaning up or browsing online. But Dexter is must-stop-and-watch television. Yeah, um, I don't think there is much social commentary. Nope. There's always The Simpsons. I think that may be the only thing that does it regularly.

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[info]greydruid
2008-07-12 07:41 am UTC (link)
I want to chime in and say I disagree about the "shared time line" thing. The entertainment options included a modern-day singer, presented as an old classic. The people referred to themselves as humans (and wondered why The Doctor did too, as if he wasn't one).

And, of course, I have my own thoughts on social commentary and the like. It felt more like a critique of modern British thinking. You can go around thinking that killing is never the answer, that you can talk your way out of anything, but The Doctor gets literally talked into his own near-oblivion, the talking diplomacy just used long enough so Whatever It Was could deliver the coup de grâce....

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[info]iko
2008-07-12 12:13 pm UTC (link)
The thing about the entertainment options is that we know there are human-looking people in the world and that they have really false ideas of humanity. I do think that it is most-likely that the storyline is taking place in the far future, but I'm not convinced of it. And bear in mind that it could be TARDIS translation happening... so one just never knows. Mostly, I'm curious as to why Rose is flash-backed in some episodes but not in others.

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