Iko ([info]iko) wrote,
@ 2008-06-11 12:15:00
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Entry tags:politics, religion

Religion and American Politics


A speech by Obama on religion.

Now I really want to get my hands on the entire speech and information about when he gave it. Notes in the Ravelry thread don't agree and it ranges from 2006 to March of this year. What I've heard so far points to a good and interesting speech and I'd love to see if there is more interesting substance in it.

I am optimistic for this upcoming election.

(ETA Note: I know that there are a number of people on my flist who aren't a fan of Obama and highly preferred Clinton. Fair enough! But please bear in mind who I am: a conservative-leaning moderate who typically votes Republican. Discussions about how Clinton is better for the Democratic party would pretty much fall on deaf ears for me because I am not a Democrat.)


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[info]complete_lie
2008-06-11 07:34 pm UTC (link)
Seems like it's this speech from June, 2006.

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[info]iko
2008-06-11 09:46 pm UTC (link)
Thank you so much!

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[info]ursulahitler
2008-06-11 09:40 pm UTC (link)
I am a lower-case atheist (with agnostic sprinkles on top) and normally I just get bored/nauseated when politicians start talking about God. But given that a distressing number of Americans still believe that Obama is a "secret Muslim" (and they think Muslim=terrorist), I really think he should start dropping a little more Jesus into his speeches. I mean, if he was saying stuff like he says in that speech, driving home that he IS a Christian even if he's not a fundamentalist swine, I think it'd do him some good in the polls.

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[info]iko
2008-06-11 09:49 pm UTC (link)
The problem with the number of Amercians that believe that Obama is a "secret Muslim" is that many are probably the same people that point at Wright and use the fact that Wright is his former paster and spiritual leader against Obama. These people will never vote for Obama in the first place in my opinion. So no matter what is said and done in this respect would make any difference.

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[info]f13tch3r
2008-06-19 03:54 am UTC (link)
Oh, I'm glad you are looking into Obama. I'm a recovering republican, myself. I realised ideology tends not to work in reality. And that no, the modern republican party is not the party of Lincoln. I, too, need to find out more about this man. But wait... perhaps not. I really want to vote for him. If I learn too much, I may change my mind. Crap. Nope. I won't. Sad, really, how I've come to embrace ignorance. *sigh*

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[info]iko
2008-06-19 04:40 am UTC (link)
Yeah, the modern Republican party is really awful at the moment. I want fiscal responsibility/conservatism and smaller government (part of that means for the government to get out of people's freaking private lives and stop legislating religious intolerance). I try to keep up with politics but I don't obsess about it, so I don't know lots of details, but I try to keep myself education on the issues that I find important and the positions of the candidates on those issues.

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